Comments for 2.33 Gallons = 1 US Peck http://www.2point33gallons.com Phil Peck's Weblog (Scouter, Outdoorsman, Father, and Husband) Sat, 14 Jan 2012 14:23:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 Comment on Day 13 – 100 Days Of Scouting by Wood Beads | Blue Moon Beads http://www.2point33gallons.com/2011/02/day-13-100-days-of-scouting.html#comment-82326 Wood Beads | Blue Moon Beads Sat, 14 Jan 2012 14:23:04 +0000 http://www.2point33gallons.com/2011/02/day-13-100-days-of-scouting.html#comment-82326 [...] Greenwood, Tulsa, Oklahoma – Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaBest Wood Badge Course AnnouncedBunkers ChristmasAffordable Health Care for America Act – Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaArchitecture – Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaList of fallacies – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia / An online argument I skippedThe Problem With Women in the BSABatesCentral BlogWood Lathe Safety Tips - The Safety BlogDay 13 – 100 Days Of Scouting [...] [...] Greenwood, Tulsa, Oklahoma – Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaBest Wood Badge Course AnnouncedBunkers ChristmasAffordable Health Care for America Act – Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaArchitecture – Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaList of fallacies – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia / An online argument I skippedThe Problem With Women in the BSABatesCentral BlogWood Lathe Safety Tips – The Safety BlogDay 13 – 100 Days Of Scouting [...]

]]> Comment on The Problem With Women in the BSA by Wood Beads | Blue Moon Beads http://www.2point33gallons.com/2011/08/the-problem-with-women-in-the-bsa.html#comment-82325 Wood Beads | Blue Moon Beads Sat, 14 Jan 2012 14:22:23 +0000 http://www.2point33gallons.com/?p=468#comment-82325 [...] Greenwood, Tulsa, Oklahoma – Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaBest Wood Badge Course AnnouncedBunkers ChristmasAffordable Health Care for America Act – Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaArchitecture – Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaList of fallacies – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia / An online argument I skippedThe Problem With Women in the BSA [...] [...] Greenwood, Tulsa, Oklahoma – Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaBest Wood Badge Course AnnouncedBunkers ChristmasAffordable Health Care for America Act – Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaArchitecture – Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaList of fallacies – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia / An online argument I skippedThe Problem With Women in the BSA [...]

]]> Comment on Goodbye, Farewell, Amen by Chris Meadows http://www.2point33gallons.com/2011/12/goodbye-farewell-amen.html#comment-82144 Chris Meadows Tue, 03 Jan 2012 16:28:03 +0000 http://www.2point33gallons.com/?p=475#comment-82144 Phil Great post and glad you have such good memories of 2011, hope 2012 is as much fun. I have one question you mention the Gilwell Song? please explain being from the other side of the pond it not something I have come across YiS K check out www.jabbering.co.uk Phil

Great post and glad you have such good memories of 2011, hope 2012 is as much fun.

I have one question you mention the Gilwell Song? please explain being from the other side of the pond it not something I have come across

YiS
K
check out http://www.jabbering.co.uk

]]> Comment on Goodbye, Farewell, Amen by Patty http://www.2point33gallons.com/2011/12/goodbye-farewell-amen.html#comment-82114 Patty Mon, 02 Jan 2012 00:55:45 +0000 http://www.2point33gallons.com/?p=475#comment-82114 The only people who think all your scouting involvement is a burden are those selfish few of us....and only because we don't get to spend as much time with you as we would like. Can't blame us for that! But to be quite honest, watching the whole family grow and bond together over the past few years, we couldn't imagine scouting not being in your lives! We are so proud of all of you...all that you are...all taht you have become...and for the huge impact you are having on young men's lives! Keep on going! The only people who think all your scouting involvement is a burden are those selfish few of us….and only because we don’t get to spend as much time with you as we would like. Can’t blame us for that! But to be quite honest, watching the whole family grow and bond together over the past few years, we couldn’t imagine scouting not being in your lives! We are so proud of all of you…all that you are…all taht you have become…and for the huge impact you are having on young men’s lives! Keep on going!

]]> Comment on The Problem With Women in the BSA by Dave http://www.2point33gallons.com/2011/08/the-problem-with-women-in-the-bsa.html#comment-80739 Dave Sun, 18 Sep 2011 00:38:26 +0000 http://www.2point33gallons.com/?p=468#comment-80739 It is sad that sexism still pervades so many places. I am sure that the kids truly appreciate everything that you and BJ do for them. You are changing the next generation of kids to be more amenable to women having a stronger say and place in groups. It is sad that sexism still pervades so many places. I am sure that the kids truly appreciate everything that you and BJ do for them. You are changing the next generation of kids to be more amenable to women having a stronger say and place in groups.

]]> Comment on The Problem With Women in the BSA by Frank Maynard http://www.2point33gallons.com/2011/08/the-problem-with-women-in-the-bsa.html#comment-80447 Frank Maynard Wed, 31 Aug 2011 04:18:59 +0000 http://www.2point33gallons.com/?p=468#comment-80447 Phil, First, congratulations on completing your Ordeal! For me, it was one of the most moving and meaningful experiences I have had in Scouting. Women have made great strides and advances in the BSA. Their presence has only enhanced the program and given it more depth of character. Our troop committee is about 30% female including several in main positions like Secretary and Advancement Chair. While we don't have any female Assistant Scoutmasters, I know of troops that do. Our district committee is almost half female as is our training team, and nearly all wear a lodge flap. Moms understand boys probably better than dads do. Dads seem to enjoy the outdoor program, camping and hiking, and even cooking, but moms know what makes boys tick, and are more comfortable with the personal issues such as encouragement and behavior. A mom who is committed to the program and adheres to the ideals of boy leadership can be a highly effective adult leader, one who any unit would be glad to have on board. I admire couples like you where both are involved in Scouting. We have a few in our district and it seems to draw them closer. Your wife's commitment to cheerfully serving will someday get her nominated to the "brotherhood" as well. Phil,

First, congratulations on completing your Ordeal! For me, it was one of the most moving and meaningful experiences I have had in Scouting.

Women have made great strides and advances in the BSA. Their presence has only enhanced the program and given it more depth of character. Our troop committee is about 30% female including several in main positions like Secretary and Advancement Chair. While we don’t have any female Assistant Scoutmasters, I know of troops that do. Our district committee is almost half female as is our training team, and nearly all wear a lodge flap.

Moms understand boys probably better than dads do. Dads seem to enjoy the outdoor program, camping and hiking, and even cooking, but moms know what makes boys tick, and are more comfortable with the personal issues such as encouragement and behavior. A mom who is committed to the program and adheres to the ideals of boy leadership can be a highly effective adult leader, one who any unit would be glad to have on board.

I admire couples like you where both are involved in Scouting. We have a few in our district and it seems to draw them closer. Your wife’s commitment to cheerfully serving will someday get her nominated to the “brotherhood” as well.

]]> Comment on The Problem With Women in the BSA by Doug http://www.2point33gallons.com/2011/08/the-problem-with-women-in-the-bsa.html#comment-80444 Doug Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:41:15 +0000 http://www.2point33gallons.com/?p=468#comment-80444 I volunteered as an adult in the BSA in 1992 after a 9 year hiatus from my involvement as a youth. The Scoutmaster was set upon the previous gender policy and I was puzzled why he didn't want a mother in uniform and a real help on the campouts. I attended Scout leader basic at that time and about 25% of the participants were female. I hadn't realized the gender policy had changed so recently then. I assumed it had let females in for much longer. The Scoutmaster adapted after some education then I serve as SM for 5 years and continue on now as an assistant. Being blessed with just daughters however I began my adventure in Girl Scouting . In 2011 I can not serve in the GSUSA as an "01" - the registration code of the primary adult girl scout leader. Some glass ceilings are still in place. I volunteered as an adult in the BSA in 1992 after a 9 year hiatus from my involvement as a youth. The Scoutmaster was set upon the previous gender policy and I was puzzled why he didn’t want a mother in uniform and a real help on the campouts. I attended Scout leader basic at that time and about 25% of the participants were female. I hadn’t realized the gender policy had changed so recently then. I assumed it had let females in for much longer. The Scoutmaster adapted after some education then I serve as SM for 5 years and continue on now as an assistant. Being blessed with just daughters however I began my adventure in Girl Scouting . In 2011 I can not serve in the GSUSA as an “01″ – the registration code of the primary adult girl scout leader. Some glass ceilings are still in place.

]]> Comment on The Problem With Women in the BSA by Mel http://www.2point33gallons.com/2011/08/the-problem-with-women-in-the-bsa.html#comment-80442 Mel Tue, 30 Aug 2011 16:39:16 +0000 http://www.2point33gallons.com/?p=468#comment-80442 Thank you Phil. I have experienced much of the attitudes expressed by scouters and nonscouters. I have heard it said in more than one arena that "Cub Scouts are for the Mom's and Boy Scouts are for the Dads" so much I started to believe it. I had a pack party a few years ago where I was the Tiger den leader and a mom approached me and felt my role would best be served by a man. She felt her son needed the male influence more than what the program could offer. She was looking because she needed a good dad stand in because her child's wasn't around. That is a frustration for me. I was very offended. I am a mother of 4 boys and yet I am unqualified? I didnt bother to tell her that no man stepped up to the job, though there could have been. In fact I have seen more men turn down leadership, and I have seen incorrect unsafe behaviors from male leaders. Men do not have the corner on absolute perfection in Scouting. Men are human and therefore err just as women do. I feel that each woman who steps up to help lead the youth (boys and girls because BSA is coed which most still refuse to believe by the way) is a person who saw a need and filled it. I have witnessed this summer the lack of respect in our future generations of young men and their poor attitudes towards female Venturing Crew members. Why? Because their leadership which includes their own parents taught that attitude. We have an opportunity within these programs to influence the future of our world and some of our "leaders" seek only to saddle our future with poisonous ideas and values which are not really values. People only teach what they know and that even goes for the ones who propigate bad behaviors such as this issue here. I can guarantee you those that harbor such prejudices and teach it will further damage the hearts and minds of our youth with allowing other bad behaviors to go on as well. I dont believe either gender rides the high road over the other. And I dont and won't let myself be saddled with their poison and take it to heart. Phil your wife is noble and kind with a smile that can lift anyone's day. She is a great woman of service, I know because I have seen her in action. Keep your chin up Peck family keep looking to the future and know you have my support always. Thank you Phil. I have experienced much of the attitudes expressed by scouters and nonscouters. I have heard it said in more than one arena that “Cub Scouts are for the Mom’s and Boy Scouts are for the Dads” so much I started to believe it.
I had a pack party a few years ago where I was the Tiger den leader and a mom approached me and felt my role would best be served by a man. She felt her son needed the male influence more than what the program could offer. She was looking because she needed a good dad stand in because her child’s wasn’t around. That is a frustration for me. I was very offended. I am a mother of 4 boys and yet I am unqualified? I didnt bother to tell her that no man stepped up to the job, though there could have been. In fact I have seen more men turn down leadership, and I have seen incorrect unsafe behaviors from male leaders. Men do not have the corner on absolute perfection in Scouting. Men are human and therefore err just as women do. I feel that each woman who steps up to help lead the youth (boys and girls because BSA is coed which most still refuse to believe by the way) is a person who saw a need and filled it. I have witnessed this summer the lack of respect in our future generations of young men and their poor attitudes towards female Venturing Crew members. Why? Because their leadership which includes their own parents taught that attitude. We have an opportunity within these programs to influence the future of our world and some of our “leaders” seek only to saddle our future with poisonous ideas and values which are not really values.
People only teach what they know and that even goes for the ones who propigate bad behaviors such as this issue here. I can guarantee you those that harbor such prejudices and teach it will further damage the hearts and minds of our youth with allowing other bad behaviors to go on as well. I dont believe either gender rides the high road over the other. And I dont and won’t let myself be saddled with their poison and take it to heart. Phil your wife is noble and kind with a smile that can lift anyone’s day. She is a great woman of service, I know because I have seen her in action. Keep your chin up Peck family keep looking to the future and know you have my support always.

]]> Comment on The Problem With Women in the BSA by Kiff http://www.2point33gallons.com/2011/08/the-problem-with-women-in-the-bsa.html#comment-80439 Kiff Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:39:31 +0000 http://www.2point33gallons.com/?p=468#comment-80439 Phil I started reading your post with sadness in my heart thinking it was another tyraid about women and girls in scouting coming out of the USA. I am delighted that I chose to read on, it is a good to hear a positive message about females in Scouting. I do my scouting in the UK and from 1993 we have been fully co-educational at all levels of scouting from the littlest beaver to the oldes leader. I will also look into if there have ever been any restrictions on adults, I believe that there will be external social restrictions during the BP times but I know since 1979 girls have been part of the old Ventures. So all my scouting life, females have been part of scouting to me a Scout is a Scout regardless of Creed, Colour or Gender we are all part of the largest youth movement on the planet with some 31million members. As and adult in the movement we should have one thing in common we are there to support and enrich the lives of the young people we meet and more than likely they will support and enrich ours too. I wish you and your wife an long and very fufilling scouting life. p.s. Tell your wife the OA is full of men doing funny hand shakes (for more info look here http://www.jabbering.co.uk/2010/01/the-order-of-the-arrow/ :) ) Phil

I started reading your post with sadness in my heart thinking it was another tyraid about women and girls in scouting coming out of the USA.

I am delighted that I chose to read on, it is a good to hear a positive message about females in Scouting.

I do my scouting in the UK and from 1993 we have been fully co-educational at all levels of scouting from the littlest beaver to the oldes leader.
I will also look into if there have ever been any restrictions on adults, I believe that there will be external social restrictions during the BP times but I know since 1979 girls have been part of the old Ventures.

So all my scouting life, females have been part of scouting to me a Scout is a Scout regardless of Creed, Colour or Gender we are all part of the largest youth movement on the planet with some 31million members.

As and adult in the movement we should have one thing in common we are there to support and enrich the lives of the young people we meet and more than likely they will support and enrich ours too.

I wish you and your wife an long and very fufilling scouting life.

p.s. Tell your wife the OA is full of men doing funny hand shakes (for more info look here http://www.jabbering.co.uk/2010/01/the-order-of-the-arrow/ :) )

]]> Comment on The Road to Gilwell by Kalyn http://www.2point33gallons.com/2011/06/the-road-to-gilwell.html#comment-79375 Kalyn Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:16:45 +0000 http://www.2point33gallons.com/?p=447#comment-79375 I'm imprsesed! You've managed the almost impossible. I’m imprsesed! You’ve managed the almost impossible.

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